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1a.
Who We Are: Progressive Independent is an online community for Progressives. Members are expected to be supportive of Progressive ideals and to support Progressive candidates. Progressive Independent is not affiliated with any party because our goal is to have a majority of Progressive members who are are Democrats, Greens and Progressive Independents all working together to move our country leftwards in order to move towards and rebalance the center. We will not tolerate any insults to Greens and Independents who we feel are closer to our ideological goals than status-quo Democrats. Left-leaning and Socialist Libertarians are, of course, welcome.
We are vehemently anti-war and hold Democrats who were complicit just as responsible as Republicans.  This includes Gulf War 1 and Clinton's obscene war against Yugoslavia.   Silence too is complicity!
1b.
Who you are:  Please make sure you fit here.  We welcome thoughtful Left-leaning posters who support our goals but we do not welcome propagandists, vacuous cheerleaders or people who are just looking for a good fight.  This is not a forum where apologetics or spinning to provide air cover for the democrats spinelessnes is taken to kindly.  Any hint of sympathy for or relation to the DLC and their repackaged "New Democrats" will get you trashed here.  Please make sure you read the "About Progressive Independent" page.
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Civility: Treat other members with respect. Under-the-radar Trolls? Let THEM convince members otherwise before they rack up their postcount. Otherwise, "Whack 'em and Stack 'em" in a humorous way before we put them out of their misery. We will not tolerate any racism, sexism, or anti-Semitism towards Jews or Arabs. We will also not tolerate being dictated to about how certain people feel those terms should be defined. We are a progressive community defining those terms according to our standards because we understand very well that he who controls the language controls the discourse so we're taking the language back. If you don't like that, please do not bother to register to convince us we're wrong. We're not interested in slowing down our progress to get tangled in a spider-web of definitions. 

On a special note, there is a perception that the pro-Palestinian Left is anti-Semitic. The perception is (largely) false but it's not merely the result of an extended smear campaign; it's not merely an expression of anyone's malfeasance. There are reasons for this perception, and in order to seriously combat it, we need to do more than simply mention it all the time, and unthinkingly and indiscriminately condemn our ideological opponents for it. (This, in fact, is exactly the trap into which the proponents of the "New Anti-Semitism" have fallen, with unfortunate consequences for the reliability of the accusation even when accurate.)  Unjustly smearing Israel for crimes it did not commit is not only wrong, but leads to dangerously naive thinking about our own system - that if only we oust the Mossad/AIPAC/etc. everything will be peachy keen again. 

Important note concerning other boards: This web-site was not set up to bash other discussion boards.  Be aware that if we feel your main purpose here is to gripe, we'll take a very dim view of your not-so-positive contributions to our community because it's frankly boring.   If you have any bitterness, purge your feelings over there and don't register until you're ready to MOVE FORWARD!  If you have a constructive and useful point to make about complicit manouverings on certain forums, websites, TV shows, newspapers, please limit those discussions to the "Complicity Watch" forum.  Make sure you note the rules of that forum before posting.

3a.
Do not post offensive material: Avoid language or statements that can be considered racist, sexist, threatening, inflammatory, hateful, insulting, or violent. While we value freedom of expression, we also value the comfort and sanctity of this space for everyone. We expect that certain topics may lead to contention and debate, and will not prevent users from expressing their opinions, as long as they can be articulated and debated in a rational, calm, and informed manner.
3b. Do not post messages that could be construed as advocating harm or death to the president or other high-ranking official in the United States government. In the case of the president, do not even post jokes. See here.
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Content: Don't be an ass and don't be a jerk. We reserve the right to zap any post based on content if it would embarrass the majority of our progressive members. We have no intention of rolling over to accomodate fascists, Vichy collaborators, or people who hate Bush but not the entire machinery that collaborated in bringing about the current tragic political situation. We are not interested in debating Right-wingers or Conservative Dems here so don't bother.
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Do not hijack threads or pursue tangents: We expect, and hope, that political discussions will lead in countless directions; however, please avoid sidetracking the topic of a thread. If you feel the need to 'take over' someone else's thread, please begin a new thread.

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Copyrights: Do not copy-and-paste entire articles onto this discussion forum unless the source specifically authorizes it; in that case, post the permission and the url to the permission at the beginning or end of the article. When referencing copyrighted work, post an excerpt with a link back to the original. Generally speaking 6 paragraphs should be enough (8 if it's a really long article). If you are posting an interview or Q & A, the rule would extend to 6/8 paragraphs per person. If you are reposting an article where the author has requested dissemination, please feel free to post in its entirety but you must include the copyright and the permission' statement. For more on this matter, to include how to go about getting permission to post entire articles, please see our fair use policy.
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Use explanatory and descriptive post titles: Do not use vague headings such as "Read This," "I Have a Question," or "Announcement."  Please do not use all capitals for titles.
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Forum Administration: Help the moderating team police the board by clicking "Alert" on any post that seems a bit "odd" and give a brief, even one word, explanation.
* Warning*- If the general trend of your alerts seems agenda-driven to shut down discussions you don't like, the alert function will not be your friend. We won't take kindly to arm-twisting and as a result will probably ban you for being a nuisance.
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Posting Privileges: We reserve the right to revoke your posting privileges if we feel you are not supportive of our goals. If you are inactive for a certain period, we will deactivate your account to discourage the phenomenon of "sleeper trolls" and to have an accurate idea of what our membership is.  If you feel your account should be reinstated, please contact the Administrators.
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Other: Don't try to bull-shit us. There will be no exceptions made for right-wing garbage, for DLC talking points or for the intellecutally dishonest and embarrassing spin of how a vote "for" the war wasn't really a vote "for" the war.  There are plenty of other boards where you can post that crap- just not here.  If you're an ass troll or a disruptor, we'll "whack you and stack you" out of everyone's misery.
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Personal Note:

This website exists because there are too many issues, namely Israel/Palestine & the criminal complicity of Democrats on the issues destroying our country, that Progressives can't openly discuss on most other boards. 
If you do not like the spirit of Progressive Independent please register at one of these other boards instead:

Common Ground Common Sense (formerly "John Kerry" Forum site of 2004; Moderate/Centrist/Liberal - big tent approach)

KOS (Center Left Board - Moderate Dems who have recently grown as sick of the DLC as we are)

People for Change (Center Left - Progressive Board very commmited to & involved with Democracy for America)

Neutral Underground (A new board that allows all political persuasions and has some serious across-the-aisle discussions)

Please note that we do not recruit from other boards & that no one is forced to be here.
Registering to post here is requisite on your acceptance of the spirit of Progressive Independent;
post on the other boards if you have any issues with our positions- they're non-negotiable.


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